Windows 8 Permissions

[jadag]

Hi All,

I recently bought a laptop that came installed with Windows 8.0.

Often when I want to move an app I have downloaded to another Directory, I get a message that says "You do not have permission to do this"

I also get the same message when I try and rename a file.

I am the only user and my profile shows me as "Administrator".
My UAC is set to "off".

Has anyone else experienced this and if so, does anyone have a solution?

[Ether]

I have not experienced this on my Windows 8. I have UAC enabled and I'm running Salamander in reduced privileges mode most of the time.

Which files give you this problem? Which directory is it in and where do you want to move it? What version (including "bitness") of Salamander are you using?

[SvA]

I am not sure what you are experiencing, but it might have to do with zone information. If Windows thinks that the file originates from a non-trusted location, all kind of warnings and denial might happen.
Is the current location of the file on a local drive or on some network drive? If it's on the network (or some other device) make sure that that location is trusted, i.e. in Internet Explorer's Local or Trusted Sites zone (and those Zones have standard security or are relaxed even more).

If you copied the file from a non-trusted location (this might be a web download, an e-mail attachment or a network location), Windows added an ADS, tagging the file as not trustworthy. Right click the file and choose Properties. On the General page, at the bottom there might be a security warning and a button to allow access. Click that button, then Ok, and try the formerly rejected action again. Did it help?

I also experienced cases where files were restricted by ACLs that are unusual for the location of the file unless moved from somewhere else or set explicitly. Usually the file then gets a padlock overlay icon. I don't know yet, what causes this, but I usually fix it by removing all ACLs, even the inherited ones, then let it inherit ACLs from it's current container.

And remember, to be an administrator does not mean that you are (technically) allowed do anything, but merely that you will be able to get yourself the (technical) permission to do almost anything.

[jadag]

Thanks for your responses. Here are some more details;

1. this occurs on many different file types including MSWord documents (.docx) I have created. However it only occurs in about 1 in 10 cases.

2. The latest occurance was as follows;

- I downloaded a small "Icon Extractor" programme from http://www.carifred.com/quick_any2ico/

- I down loded it to C:\Users\Tony\Downloads\Quick_Any2Ico.exe

- I then opened Salamander 2.54 and attempted to drag it from:

C:\Users\Tony\Downloads\Quick_Any2Ico.exe
to
C:\Program Files (x86)\] Dir - Graphics\Dir - Grabbers\Dir - Icon Grabbers\Quick Any2Ico

- I get a message that says "You do not have permission to do this"

RE: Windows added an ADS, tagging the file as not trustworthy. Right click the file and choose Properties. On the General page, at the bottom there might be a security warning and a button to allow access.

- There is no warning or button

RE: I also experienced cases where files were restricted by ACLs that are unusual for the location of the file unless moved from somewhere else or set explicitly. Usually the file then gets a padlock overlay icon. I don't know yet, what causes this, but I usually fix it by removing all ACLs, even the inherited ones, then let it inherit ACLs from it's current container.

- I'm sorry, I am a non-technical user and didn't understand this.

The bottom line is that I have to now open Windows Explorer to move or rename etc.

It still comes up with the "You'll need to provide administrator permission to rename this folder ..." message but if I click the "Continue" button below the message, it renames or moves the file with no problems.

As I prefer Salamanders quick and simple GUI as opposed to the several "clicks" I have to go through with the single panel Explorer, I am quite keen to solve this.

Thanks - Jadag

[therube]

(Not on Win7 at present to confirm, but...)

> C:\Program Files (x86)\...

I would expect \Program Files (x86)\ to be a SpecialFolder. One that you as a user are not able to write to, directly.

You can install a program into Program Files, you likely can create a directory in Program Files, but you may be limited in copying, moving files there.


> Windows Explorer ... It still comes up with the "You'll need to provide
> administrator permission"

In that case, likewise for Salamander. If you were to run Salamander with Admin privileges (right-click the icon, Run As Admin), then you would also be able to copy, move files into your wanted directory in Program Files.


(Window "permissions" & such really suck. And more so in Win7, compared to XP, where the user is given freer reign.)

[SvA]

You said

My UAC is set to "off"

In my understanding, you would not get the "You'll need to provide administrator permission" prompt, if this setting was really honored by Windows. UAC is still in effect and Salamander does not yet support it.

[jadag]

... And I thought I hated Vista!!!1

Thanks for the responses.

I would expect \Program Files (x86)\ to be a SpecialFolder. One that you as a user are not able to write to, directly.

I have been able to rename, move, delete etc. before. I can't see why it works fine on some files and not on others.

In that case, likewise for Salamander. If you were to run Salamander with Admin privileges (right-click the icon, Run As Admin), then you would also be able to copy, move files into your wanted directory in Program Files.

Whoo Hoo! It worked. Once I changed to Run as Admin there were no more problems.

Thanks a lot!