Network not showing

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dcol
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Network not showing

Post by dcol » 10 Apr 2018, 00:14

I am evaluating Salamander. I have use Commander for years and like that type of format for a file manager.

Problem is, all I get in the Network panel is 'Entire Network'. None of my network computers, shares, or resources show up. Windows Explorer shows all of them just fine as Discovery Method WSD. What method does Salamander use to get a list of network computers? I am using Windows 10 Pro v1709.

Thanks

therube
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Re: Network not showing

Post by therube » 10 Apr 2018, 18:46

Are you running Salamander at a different privilege level, like "As Admin"?
Are you using mapped drive letters or UNC paths?

(SelfMan) said that mapped drive letters run under the user context.
So if you run Salamander "As Admin", then you are no longer "user".
WinXP Pro SP3 or Win7 x86 | SS 2.54

dcol
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Re: Network not showing

Post by dcol » 10 Apr 2018, 18:56

I figured it out. This is the same issue that plagues all Windows 10 Creators update users which is slowly getting rid of Netbios. If there is no Master Browser active on the network, then you will not see any networked computers. Salamander needs to move away from using the network neighborhood method and move to WSD if it wants to keep up with Microsoft.

If anyone else has this issue, simply start the Computer Browser service and set to Automatic which is disabled by default now. Microsoft states than the Computer Browser service will not be available at some future point in time at which point Salamander will no longer see network computers.
Last edited by dcol on 12 Apr 2018, 00:42, edited 1 time in total.

therube
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Re: Network not showing

Post by therube » 11 Apr 2018, 22:36

(Since I knew nothing of "WSD".
WSD Discovery Method
can not see netbios machines on network
[Now I know - a little.])
WinXP Pro SP3 or Win7 x86 | SS 2.54

dcol
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Re: Network not showing

Post by dcol » 12 Apr 2018, 00:41

Yes the Function Discovery services will ultimately replace the Computer Browser service. PnP and SSDP will probably stick around since they haven't messed around with those yet.

So, if the Salamander devs are reading this, are we to expect to see some changes? I'll tell you one thing, they would increase sales because no other file manager that I know of has this ability other than Windows Explorer and some useless Store app called network file manager..

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Re: Network not showing

Post by Jan Rysavy » 13 Apr 2018, 08:47

Interesting, we will look into it. Thank you.

Omer
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Re: Network not showing

Post by Omer » 23 Apr 2018, 08:51

I use WIN10 1803 and tried to enable the Computer Browser service. Unfortunately it didn't help.
I tried to run Salamander both in User and Admin mode but it didn't change the results.

dcol
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Re: Network not showing

Post by dcol » 23 Apr 2018, 16:16

Yes, as we get new Windows 10 updates, the problem gets worse. Please hurry Altap!

therube
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Re: Network not showing

Post by therube » 21 May 2018, 20:46

(Nirsoft's) NetBScanner provides an easy (GUI) method of determining if you have 'Master Browser'.

https://s25.postimg.cc/68lnp43kf/Nirsof ... rowser.png

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