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AS 2.55 - when?

Posted: 05 Mar 2012, 10:24
by LuP
Hello,

when the next version - AS 2.55 - will be released, at least as beta/RC?

TIA.

LuP

Re: AS 2.55 - when?

Posted: 05 Mar 2012, 10:42
by Wizzard
It seems that never :mrgreen:

Re: AS 2.55 - when?

Posted: 05 Mar 2012, 11:23
by Jan Rysavy
Yes, we will release EAP version soon. Both x86 and x64.
I cannot give you exact date, but we are already working with x64 version.

Re: AS 2.55 - when?

Posted: 05 Mar 2012, 11:32
by LuP
Thanks for the answer.

How "soon" is soon? - Could you estimate?

Do you tend/prefer to release both x86 and x64 verions at the same moment?

- They are users working on either 32b or 64b systems and IMHO the are not so much interested in the other version.

Wouldn't it better to release e.g. 32b version independently (i.e. ASAP) on the 64b one and vice-versa?

LuP

Re: AS 2.55 - when?

Posted: 05 Mar 2012, 12:00
by Jan Rysavy
I'm unable to estimate exact time, I'm sorry. We will release it ASAP - we are still fixing x64 problems and problems related to switch from Visual C++ 6.0 to 2008/2010. These problems are common to both x86 and x64 versions.

Re: AS 2.55 - when?

Posted: 05 Mar 2012, 12:42
by Jan Rysavy
Altap Salamander x64 & Windows 8

Re: AS 2.55 - when?

Posted: 05 Mar 2012, 13:34
by LuP
Thx for the screenshots - this makes users believe AS is still being developed and next version is about to come... ;-)

LuP

Re: AS 2.55 - when?

Posted: 17 Mar 2012, 15:06
by Jan Rysavy
We are looking to release EAP version of AS 3.0 (both x64 and x86 versions) during next week. We will offer discount to all AS 2.x users. If you purchased Altap Salamander recently (we will specify it exactly), you will receive 3.0 upgrade free of charge. All EDU license users (schools) will receive 3.0 upgrade free of charge.

Re: AS 2.55 - when?

Posted: 17 Mar 2012, 17:29
by vld
Jan Rysavy wrote:We will offer discount to all AS 2.x users. If you purchased Altap Salamander recently (we will specify it exactly), you will receive 3.0 upgrade free of charge. All EDU license users (schools) will receive 3.0 upgrade free of charge.

That is really horseshit. Don't say Micro$hit does that also with their upgrades since they upgrade on a timely schedule. You are behind the times on x64 and W7 and now you throw us a bone and tell us to pay for it. Total Commander looks much better now.

Re: AS 2.55 - when?

Posted: 17 Mar 2012, 19:19
by Jan Rysavy
Yes, we really need resources for further Altap Salamander development. We didn't ask for upgrade payments for 10+ years (release of version 2.0).

Re: AS 2.55 - when?

Posted: 17 Mar 2012, 21:38
by LuP
It's clear development requires resources.
I wouldn't surprised even if the upgrade would require any payment (of course, better price when upgrading compared to when you buy newly).
Each development has its price.
Further development for no fee = why any development?
What should the developers live from?

Re: AS 2.55 - when?

Posted: 18 Mar 2012, 02:42
by vld
Jan Rysavy wrote:Yes, we really need resources for further Altap Salamander development. We didn't ask for upgrade payments for 10+ years (release of version 2.0).
And what have you Developed in 18months since the release of 2.54? Now you are putting 3.x into ├četa and it will be in ├četa for a year. So you really won't have a release for almost 3yrs from the last release. That is not Development...sorry. You kept preaching of a non-existant/followed Roadmap and you aren't even up to par with Windows 7 and x64 where other vendors have passed you up.....and please don't say that 2.54 is stable. Like I said. Total Commander looks good about now. I think I've been stroked enough with your release BS. :evil:

If you EVER release 3.0, I may try it. For now it's time to begin the conversion process to another File Manager.

Adios

Re: AS 2.55 - when?

Posted: 18 Mar 2012, 06:17
by Jan Rysavy
I'm sorry, but it is total nonsense. We switched from Visual C++ 6.0 to Visual C++ 2008/2010/11, with several translators introduced new languages, supported x64 version, implemented a new bug reporting system with support for minidumps, etc.

Final version 3.0 will be released soon, we just need to polish it during EAP/beta stage.

Enjoy current Total Commander 8.0 beta 23 ;-)

Re: AS 2.55 - when?

Posted: 18 Mar 2012, 12:28
by freex
I'm not interested in changes planned for Salamander 3.0, but i would like to pay to support further development - especially UAC and unicode support. Can you guarantee that upgrade to future version offering these features will be free for Salamander 3.0 owners? And more importantly can you guarantee that more resources will speed up the development process? Most likely you already have estimates regarding the sales, can you give us expected dates for further milestones?

Re: AS 2.55 - when?

Posted: 18 Mar 2012, 18:35
by Jan Rysavy
We tried this model (2.0 -> 2.5) and I feel it is not a good idea. Please wait for feature-complete version 3.0, decide if it provides features you need and purchase 3.0 upgrade or skip it. There are several features we want push to 3.0 version such as fix for slow-transfer-problem, etc.

We can guarantee one thing: we will speed up development process if we will be able to receive enough funds from 3.0 upgrade. UAC and Unicode support are next major tasks after x64 support in AS 3.0.