RC3 Quick Rename: Copying the name of file

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RC3 Quick Rename: Copying the name of file

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With Salamander when I want to copy the name of a file, I press F2 and then Ctl+C, but this new version 2.5 RC3, When I press F2, it shows me the name of the file in a dialog box, but the extension is not selected. In al previous versions, the whole name was selected. What can I do so that when I press F2 both the name and the extension are already selected?[list][/list]

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Post by SelfMan »

This topic is currently under heavy discussion in the czech part of this forum. I believe that we will come to a usable solution for the final version.

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Post by maxovt »

Theres is also command in Edit: "Copy Name as Text" (Alt+Shift+Insert)
"Make File List" (Ctrl+M) in Commands is usefull too.
Or just click with mouse on file name in Information Line.
My deepest apologies for my awful English.

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Post by Jan Rysavy »

FOR ALL 2.5 RC3 USERS

For Czech-speaking users there is an ongoing thread.

We introduced a new Quick Rename behavior for several reasons:
1. We think it is better for the renaming
2. We had several request from our users (for example [1] [2] [3])
3. Windows Vista works the same way, it will become standard in a few years.

What we want to do now is support Ctrl+A (Select All) in this edit line.
We can also introduce a new option in the configuration to bring back old behavior.

Could you please let us know how you like new behavior?
Please specify: how do you use the Quick Rename command.

Example:
1. Mostly for copying name to clipboard, so new behavior is disturbing for me.
2. Sometimes for changing the name part (BEFORE: Ctrl+Left, Left, Shift+Home, type; NOW: type) so I welcome the change.

Please, let us know...

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Post by Klettermaxe »

I like it the way it is now in RC3.

For copying filenames I use Alt+Shift+Insert. Copying filenames with F2 - Ctrl+C (and inserting the filename elsewhere with F2 - Ctrl+V) still works as before as long as the file-extensions of the source file and the destination file match.

Salamander already has a huge lot of options. If you think of making F2 more flexible, Strg+A in the edit field might be the more useful solution.

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Post by KNUT »

Jan Rysavy wrote:Example:
1. Mostly for copying name to clipboard, so new behavior is disturbing for me.
2. Sometimes for changing the name part (BEFORE: Ctrl+Left, Left, Shift+Home, type; NOW: type) so I welcome the change.
Here's my vote: 2!
To copy the name I use Alt+Shift+Insert or the Information line!
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Post by Guest »

I would be very happy to have "the option in the configuration to bring back old behavior."

Maybe I will get used to the new behavior... But being able to decide about the behavior myself would definitely be great!

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Post by SvA »

My usage of quick rename is very varying. I guess I just as often use it to get the file name as to change the name part and as to change the extension part.
I would prefer the old behaviour, but with the new, I will get used to pressing ALT+SHIFT+INSERT and modified cursor moves to place carret/select filename parts.

An option to turn off the new behaviour would save me from having to relearn though, and thus, be wery welcome.

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Post by Guest »

My vote goes to the new behaviour. I think that it is a real advantage, regarding the original purpose (quick rename). I think that I will quickly get used to other ways for copying the full name to the clipboard and CTRL+A will help me out when trying F2 like in the old days.

No option needed for me.

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Post by Sebastian »

New behavior rocks!

@oldstyle-fans
Let the user choose is always the best choice, with this option noone has to complain ;)

Maybe it is possible to set some shortcut to copy the filename straight to clipboard? For example, i didn't find anything related to "shift+f2", so maybe you can implement this and it is maybe quicker than the old style ;)

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Post by Jan Rysavy »

Try the Edit > Copy Name as Text (Alt+Shift+Insert) command or click on name in the Information Line.

We plan to use Shift+F2 for the Duplicate command.

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Post by Textor »

Jan Rysavy wrote:FOR ALL 2.5 RC3 USERS
What we want to do now is support Ctrl+A (Select All) in this edit line.
We can also introduce a new option in the configuration to bring back old behavior.

Could you please let us know how you like new behavior?
Please specify: how do you use the Quick Rename command.
Example:
1. Mostly for copying name to clipboard, so new behavior is disturbing for me.
2. Sometimes for changing the name part (BEFORE: Ctrl+Left, Left, Shift+Home, type; NOW: type) so I welcome the change.

Please, let us know...
I use "Quick Rename"/ F2 only for renaming files, because there are other methods (as mentioned) for copying a file name to the clipboard. The new method of selecting by default only the name, not the .ext helps with renaming, so I'm not missing the old one.

Adding a "Select All" function to the F2-dialog as proposed could also be useful for editing the file name, so I am in favor of this.

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Post by SelfMan »

In the czech part of this forum came a idea of a cyclic F2.
In example:
F2 > Select whole filename
F2 F2 > Select name
F2 F2 F2 > Select extension

Altap refused such implementation as non standard behavior, but I am interested in your opinions.

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Post by th. »

Since I'm using F2 only to rename a file and in most cases the filename part only, I like the new style as it is.

I don't like the idea of cyclic F2.

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Anonymous wrote:I would be very happy to have "the option in the configuration to bring back old behavior."

Maybe I will get used to the new behavior... But being able to decide about the behavior myself would definitely be great!
Agreed. At least, have a configuration option to allow the old behavior.

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