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Explorer thumbnails displayed in Thumbnail View

Posted: 09 Jan 2009, 15:30
by plino
This is a feature already available in Explorer. It doesn't make sense to remove it. Servant Salamander's task is to add new features which I don't have in Explorer, not remove them :wink:

Re: Explorer thumbnails displayed in Thumnail View

Posted: 09 Jan 2009, 16:08
by Jan Rysavy
Note only: this feature was not removed. It just was not implemented from historical reasons, see the original thread.

Posted: 10 Jan 2009, 03:14
by host
Maybe, Jan, it will be better if you describe "historical reasons" because solution "good" in the history may be bad now. (In the context of 64bit AS, for example.) Ok, I do not have problem with Pictview but I can not see any thumbnail preview of video files in the Salamander which is standard windows function. Is it really problem to say, the "X" works up to version "Y", but you can use "Z" after the version "Y" for using of .... Do you understand me?

Posted: 10 Jan 2009, 09:08
by Jan Rysavy
We are watching this forum and our emails. If we will see demand for Windows thumbnail reader, we will implement it. Salamander development is driven by user needs, that is all.

Posted: 12 Jan 2009, 00:00
by SelfMan
+1

Posted: 12 Jan 2009, 11:47
by k0nelupy
+10 :-)

Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 02:45
by zarevak
Hi, I've put together simple plugin which displays Explorer Thumbnails in Salamander.

I tested it under WinXP and Win2k and found no problems. Although there may be faulty Shell extensions which will cause problems. Let me know of any problems in the plugin's thread.

BTW: PictView is superior to this simple plugin 8)

Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 07:41
by Jan Patera
zarevak wrote:Hi, I've put together simple plugin which displays Explorer Thumbnails in Salamander.

BTW: PictView is superior to this simple plugin 8)
I guess this is because your plugin uses shell extensions to generate the thumbnails real-time while PictView uses already existing thumbnails located in thumbs.db and ADS, right?

Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 08:02
by zarevak
Jan Patera wrote:
zarevak wrote:Hi, I've put together simple plugin which displays Explorer Thumbnails in Salamander.

BTW: PictView is superior to this simple plugin 8)
I guess this is because your plugin uses shell extensions to generate the thumbnails real-time while PictView uses already existing thumbnails located in thumbs.db and ADS, right?
What part are you referring to? PictView is superior because it produces slightly better quality thumbnails and supports rectangular images. My plugin always produces squared images with white (Window color) background. And yes, it uses Shell Extensions - currently without any caching on plugin's side.

And PictView is mainly Viewer plugin - no competition here ;)

Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 11:58
by k0nelupy
zarevak wrote:Hi, I've put together simple plugin which displays Explorer Thumbnails in Salamander.
Thanks I see video files thumbnails on Vista64 correct.
I have only one problem - in PC aren't codecs :-(
I use VLC media player - this software don't use windows codecs.

Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 12:15
by plino
zarevak, thank you very much!!!

Really!

This is absolutely fantastic, and is the kind of answer I expected from Jan... Obviously there is a conflict of interest for him ;)

Altap Salamander has just improved it's value to me by 20%!!!

Again, thank you very much!

(There is room for improvement if you feel like it, but it does just what I needed. Perfect!)

Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 12:17
by zarevak
k0nelupy wrote:I have only one problem - in PC aren't codecs :-(
Haha. You wanted Explorer Thumbnails so you've got Explorer Thumbnails... 8)

If Explorer doesn't show the thumbnails then this plugin won't display them either. Buf let me know if you see thumbnails in Explorer and not in Salamander when using this plugin.

(Note: I'm not able to support 64bit Thumbnail Shell Extensions in any way until Salamander is 64bit as well...)

Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 12:30
by zarevak
plino wrote:zarevak, thank you very much!!!
You know, I accept donations ;) But your money will be better spent on buying PictView :oops:

Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 12:32
by Jan Rysavy
plino wrote:This is absolutely fantastic, and is the kind of answer I expected from Jan... Obviously there is a conflict of interest for him ;)
Plino, please understand a few things:
1) This is official support forum for Altap Salamander. When we will feel something is in conflict with our interest, we can delete it.
2) When some feature is not implemented in Salamander, it doesn't mean we do not want to implement it. Our resources are limited.
3) You cannot expect we will implement each feature that you are asking for. Our todo list is way to long and we have some priorities.
4) We are really happy for every new plugin even if it will be open source / freeware viewer.

I'm locking this thread, please continue in http://forum.altap.cz/viewtopic.php?t=2947